Christopher J. Bjerknes on the Armenian Genocide, Part II
By Jack Manuelian
This article consists only of some highlights from the interview conducted by Bedros Hajian with Christopher Jon Bjerknes, on June 18, 2007. The complete version can be heard (there is no transcript yet) from a link in Bjerknes’ web site "JewishRacism.com," in the interviews section. Also Bjerknes new book of 575 pages "The Jewish Genocide of Armenian Christians" is available for free download. Bjerknes said about the Armenian Genocide as being (in some cases) “the worst genocide in the way that it was conducted and the percent of the population that was wiped out.” The reader should be aware that when Christopher uses the word “Jews” he is not using it in a general way but is referring to high Zionists and Frankists, religious or secular, and to the Donmeh Jews.
Bedros: I would like to talk about the new addition you made [in the 2th edition of your book] about Ataturk. Can you elaborate on that please?
Christopher: There was an article published in the Jewish daily Forward, from New York, back in 1994 which revealed that Mustafa Kamal {1} who was called Ataturk, the father of the Turks, identified himself as a decedent of Sabbatai Zevi who was a false Jewish messiah in the 17th century who started this cult of Jews who wanted to create a revolution world-wide and they based [their beliefs] on the Zoharian Kabala. One of the Sabbatai Zevi successors was Baruchyah Russo who started the Donmeh cult {2} in Salonika {3}, Greece, which eventually perpetrated the Young Turks revolution and the Genocide of the Armenians.
Bedros: In your opinion what’s the main ideology behind it, that they wanted to destroy the Armenians in order to rebuilt Jerusalem or the state of Israel?
Christopher: The Armenians served the Turkish empire very well and they were the intelligentsia and the ministers and lawyers, doctors and professionals, and they kept the Ottoman empire thriving. And by wiping out the Armenians the Jews were able to destroy the Ottoman empire which was their goal because the Ottoman empire controlled Palestine, so in order to destroy the Turkish empire it was a very evil move in their part to destroy the Armenians...
Bedros: So for years they have been able to manipulate the Armenian mind making them think that the Muslims were the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide, for years it has been passed such. Lately there are proofs to researchers and to historians that it was Talaat and the rest of this non-human individuals, who were crypto-Jews, who perpetrated the Armenian Genocide. In your own opinion, did you do research on how they kept this secret?
Christopher: They kept it secret because they maintain a strong hold on the Turkish government, and they set the Turkish government up to deny that the Genocide even occurred and thereby implicate the Turkish people as the instigators and the perpetrators of it, because people don’t realize that the Turkish government is actually run by Donmeh Jews. And they were also able to do it by limiting the influence of the Turkish government, after they have destroyed the Turkish empire they made it a very independent force under Ataturk, they got rid of idea of any imperialism and therefore they were able to alienate themselves from the Armenian people and put them (the Soviet Republic of Armenia) under the control of Soviet Jews. And another thing is that they had great influence in the mass media and in the governments of the world and they have consistently tried to block the spread of information about the Armenian Genocide. Just a decade ago it was almost unheard of [the Armenian Genocide], not many people were even aware of it let alone aware of the fact that it was actually a Jewish Genocide perpetrated against the Armenian Christians.
Bedros: Have they used Armenian individuals and organizations in order to keep it secret?
Christopher: No. There always has been a taboo about blaming the Jews for anything, because immediately when you do, you are called anti-Semite. Even the honest Armenian investigators who looked into this Genocide are very reluctant to bring up the Zionist issue and the fact that the crypto-Jews were behind it for fear of being stigmatized as anti-Semites. I think their primary goal is first to began the acknowledgment that the Genocide it itself existed which will inevitably lead investigators to the conclusion that it was perpetrated by crypto-Jews. There are letters from Jirar Lother (?-not sure of the spelling) who was the ambassador from the British government to the Ottoman empire, where he writes to the British Foreign Office that this was really a Jewish take over and not a Turkish revolution and that crypto-Jews utilized Freemasonry in order to organize the revolution and perpetrated it and that all the leaders were Jews and Freemasons, and was funded through Jewish bankers and Jewish influence and its goal, the Zionist goal, was to establish a Jewish state in Palestine and to destroy Muslim unity and the integrity of the Turkish empire and they were highly successful in that.
Bedros: And now we know that Turkey is basically controlled by the same powers and –
Christopher: Specially in the military. Ataturk was succeeded by the Turkish military as the overseer of the Turkish people, and the Turkish secular people, those who followed Ataturk, now follow the military, and they look to the military as the watch-dog that they believe absolutely is a political (has a political role beside defense), and they wanted to remain a secular society as Ataturk proposed. The Turks have great faith that the military will protect them from within and without, and they allow this military to become a sort of military dictatorship, and they believe that this military will protect them, but they don’t realize that this military is actually completely under the control of the Donmeh Jews which is why Turkey (it’s policy) is against Islamic interests and has always been a great sponsor of the state of Israel.
Bedros: Lately we hear of vicious murders of Christians in Turkey. Hrand Dink the Armenian editor was killed, also three Christian missionaries were butchered, and the blame is going on Islamic fanatics. Do you have any idea or research on that?
Christopher: Well no, it is very interesting and sophisticated game that they are playing between the PKK and Turkey, and the Kurds are being trained by the Mossad to prepare acts of terrorism against the Turks and Iranians, and against the Iraqi in order to foment a war in the region which will bring in Iran, Syria, Turkey, and certainly Armenia. And Armenia is also in an unique position because of its strong ties to Russia, both historically and in terms of their need for energy resources, and they don’t have good relations with either Turkey or Azerbaijan, they have a little bit better relations with Georgia which is their gateway to Europe, but I think their strongest ties are to Russia, and one of the goals of world Jewry is to again attack Russia and instigate a nuclear war with Russia, and the Armenians inevitably are going to be caught in that. And the Kurds I think they are being utilized as key instigators of this, just as they were utilized in the Armenian Genocide to attack and kill the Armenians as cohorts of the Turks. And they (the Kurds) were promised that after first world war they will be given the Kurdistan just as the Armenians were promised by President Wilson. Who again was being blackmailed by Justice Brandeis (? Brendel), Woodrow Wilson promised the Armenians that they would be given their independent nation, and Wilson and the Zionists renegaded on that promise and it (what remained of greater Armenia) was given to the Soviet Union. And the Kurds are going again to be slammed after all this happens but they don’t realize it.
Bedros: In you book you write on the Noahidic laws, could you little bit elaborate on those laws?
Christopher: The Jews believe that Noah was given a covenant with God and that there were seven laws given in the time of Noah which therefore apply to all human beings because Noah is the father of the modern human race and that the gentiles are compelled to obey this seven laws, and those laws are set ford in the Talmud, in the book of Sanhedrin {4}, folios 56 to 60, and they say that all gentiles are compelled to recognize that there is God and only one God and that idol worship is forbidden, those are the big ones of the Noahide laws–
Bedros: They consider the Christians as idol-worshipers basically
Christopher: Yes, in the Talmud and the Toladest-Yahuda (?) It is specifically stated that Jesus is an idol, therefore Christians who worship Jesus will be beheaded and you will notice that in the French Revolution they chopped off the heads of the Christians [by guillotine] and tried to make the French people worship their government, and it is a form of enforcing the Noahide Laws on the gentiles...
Bedros: We know that not all Jews follow this methodology or theology they have of Talmud or Zohar. How many percent follow it?
Christopher: I suspect that well over 90 percent are unaware what it really signifies, and that is also by design, the Jewish leaders wanted to keep the Jewish people ignorant and ultimately in the seventeenth century this Sabbataiean movement wanted to make the Jews secular and pretended to convert to Christianity and Islam and ultimately to become atheistic which is also part of the plan. They believe that the Messiah will arrive when the Jewish people themselves have become heretical, so there has been a strong push in Jewry through the Communist movement and through other liberal Utopian movements which replace Jewish methodology with the political methodology of Jewish world rule, one world government, Jews controlling all the wealth, Jews being the light into the nations which provides all nations with Jewish culture and Jewish moral codes which they see as being a positive thing, but the reality is that in order to institute Jewish rule, in order to institute Jewish culture, and in order to institute Jewish religion and moral codes they have to destroy the governments, the cultures, and religions of every other human being; and they always look upon it as their duty, many of them without realizing even that what they are doing very highly destructive and if was done it to them they strongly object and call it anti-Semitism. There is a strong double standard built into the Judaic methodology which blinds them to the fact that what they are doing is destructive and murder. And we see it in the ways they treat the Nazi Genocide of the European Jews in a very different way that they treat the Jewish Communist Genocide of the Slavic people [66 million Slavic/Russian Christians according to writer Solzhenitsyn] and of the Chines people and of the Cambodians for example. There is a strong double standard in the Jewish culture and it is not always done with a malicious intend, but it is done through arrogance that they are not ever aware of it.
Bedros: But their leaders are aware of it obviously.
Christopher: The leaders are aware of it, they delight in it and they view it as a religious obligation.
Bedros: They (the leaders) have a plan–
Christopher: They are racist, they think that they are a superior race, that other human beings are subhuman and that the Jewish people have a divine DNA which is godly, and that non-Jewish people have a DNA which was injected in the human race when they say Eve fornicated with the Serpent and created Cain. They believe that non-Jews are decedents from Cain and they are descendent from Adam and that they are a holy divine race and they have to destroy non-Jews in order for God to come back and create the divine order on the earth.
Bedros: In the logical world or in the logical mind, God who is presented in the New Testament as love, I would not think for a second that the God of love will commend this evil thoughts.
Christopher: We have to look at the New Testament as what it is. New Testament literally means New Covenant. Now there were several covenants. As I said, there was the covenant with Noah and there was the covenant with Abraham, where Abraham represent a selected race to inherit the land of Palestine and to be the chosen people race if the Jews obey, it is a conditional covenant. The Jews violated the condition of that covenant and they also rejected their Messiah, now I am speaking as a Christian but it is not mine own belief (not my religion), they also rejected the Messiah Jesus as the king of the Jews. Now when they did that they broke the covenant and there was a new covenant which is called the New Testament that was established through Jesus and through his sacrifice which gave redemption not only to the Jewish people but to all of mankind, and that was the ultimate sacrifice of redemption which ends all other sacrifices, and it is only by way of Jesus that people are getting redemption and salvation, and that is the Christian ideology which is very different from the Judaic ideology. Modern Jews have tried to blend the two into something they call Judea-Christianity which is a methodology, now it is true that Christianity evolved out of Judaism, it is also true that Christianity represents a new covenant, now this new world that would be created is a heavenly kingdom in Christianity, for the Jews it is a worldly kingdom. To the Christian all of this things must be done by God Himself who could be the ultimate arbiter of who is good and who is evil, now there was a break in the Jewish tradition where they decided that God was not acting to restore the Jewish people to Palestine so they would have to act on His behalf and become their own Messiah, and this was clearly stated by Moses Hass’ (?) book Rome In Jerusalem. So the Jewish people decided that they as a cohesive force could act to bring this about and they done it through Communism and through other things and through Zionism, to try to make it happen, which is very very different from the Christian faith, and they have subverted many Christian faiths.....and their ultimate goal is terrific. Their goal is to create a nuclear world war {5}. They have created the mythology that there must be an apocalyptic war which will wipe out two third of the Jews, and I think one third of the human race, and that at the end of this tribulation Jesus will return.
Bedros: What would you say to the Armenian people in order for them to wake up and see the real picture behind their Genocide?
Christopher: I think that as soon as the Armenian people point the finger at the true culprits there will be a lot of focus on it, and then they [the Zionists] will be forced to try to misinform the public as what it happened. And I think also if you can inform the Turkish people that they are not responsible, the Zionist Jews will no longer be able to pit the Turks against the Armenians and the Christians against the Muslims. So that if you tell the truth and cut through the misinformation and really identify the true culprit you can greatly improve the situation in the Middle East and start to create a rapprochement between the Armenians and the Turks, and you can start to unseat the power of the Donme in Turkey itself, and I think that is fundamental to gaining a healing process between the Armenians and the Turks as to what happened and to gain universal recognition of what happened. And I hope you and I can work together and create perhaps an institute to researching the Jewish involvement in Armenian Genocide and we can establish a web-site. Perhaps we could produce a documentary to spark interest in it. What really brought the Jewish Holocaust to the fore, to the world public, was in 1970' there was a TV series about the Holocaust and that is the real event that really put it in the conscience of the American people. And the Jews also poured a lot of funding to get the Holocaust Museum built, but they very often produced films which relates to the Holocaust, and the Armenians in order to gain that kind of public awareness they have to do the same thing.
Christopher: And you also have to learn to stigmatize people who want to deny it and people who want to create infighting among the Armenians. You are going to find that world Jewry is very clever at pitting the Armenians against themselves and creating dissensions and infighting that prevents you from becoming a cohesive force and prevents you from organizing such that you could put forward a single solid message. Now the Jews have a single solid message about the Holocaust: It was a unique event in history, it was done to exterminate the Jewish race as a whole and it was the result of German racism, Now none of those things are actually true.
But the Armenians have to form a cohesive single message that can be expressed directly and clearly, and they have not to allow their ranks be infiltrated by people who want to create infighting. They should not argue among themselves, they should not become paranoid that they had been infiltrated. They should instead focus on their goals and focus on creating exact historical understanding of what happened that they can pin-point and they can identify with solid facts. And that has not yet happened, but I think that the process that we can begin and once that coheres, once it forms a solid force, you will then have the political foundation to insist that other people acknowledge this or to be able to accuse them as having some ulterior motive as to why they are denying it. You have to present it, you have to sell it to the public in a way that is palpable to the public just as the Jews have done with Holocaust through their control of Hollywood, and you have to somehow create networks where this information can be brought out, and it can be brought out in a way that is believable and understandable and that sparks interest, and once that happens it will catch on like wild fire.
NOTES by Jack
1-Hillel Halkin in his article ‘Ataturk’s Turkey Overturned,’ published in the New York Sun, July 24, 2007, mentions an e-mail he received from a Turkish researcher saying4: “Ataturk, who was born and raised in Thessaloniki, a heavily Jewish city in his day that had a large Doenmeh population, attended a grade school, known as the ‘Semsi Effendi School,’ that was run by a religious leader of the Doenmeh community named Simon Zvi. I now know, without any shred of doubt, that Ataturk’s father was indeed of Jewish stock.” According to Halkin: Ataturk seems never to have been ashamed of his Jewish background. He hid it because it would have been political suicide not to, and the secular Turkish state that was his legacy hid it too.
2- In the National Geographic Magazine, September 1916 issue, page 224, in the article ‘Saloniki’ written by H.G Dwight, we read: “Saloniki contains not far from 150,000 people, and that more than half of them are Jews. There is also a considerable Moslem population of Hebrew origin, mainly descended from the followers of Sabatai Levi, of Smyrna, a would-be Messiah of the seventeenth century, who created a great stir in this part of the world, and who, being at last offered his choice between death and Islam, elected the latter. Several of the Young Turks leaders belong to these Donmeh as they are called.”
3- In 1430 Sultan Mourad II captured Salonika and carried off seven thousands of its inhabitants into slavery. For nearly five hundred years Salonika remained in the hands of the Turks. In 1912 the Greeks took the city from the Turks.
4- A British author writes that law number one of Noahide laws “forbid the worship of any God but their own god. Law number one which say ‘do not worship false gods’ coming from the Jewish Talmud, means any Gods the Jews don’t recognize, such as Jesus. The penalty for disobedience as given in the Talmud is beheading: “One additional element of greater severity is that violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation” Sanhedrin 57A. Those laws from 2 to 7 basically say: no murdering, no stealing, no sexual immorality, no blasphemy, no eating of raw meat like the animales do, no oppression or anarchy.
5- It is most likely Madame Hillary Clinton will be elected as United State’s next president for the period of 2009 to 2013. During her term, the great war is likely to happen.
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