Grigor Ariyatsi wrote:
Your quote above seem to imply that you support violence among Armenians against each other, between Christians and non-Christians, as well well as between light skin Armenians and dark skin Armenians,
i never support violence agains armenians each other.
but i differ pure armenians from non pure ones which are minority.
i also dont care about religion.
there is no such thing as dark skinned armenian.
there is real armenian and armenized dark armenian.
of course i dont exclude some armenians who supposdly have 100%
armenian ancestry at least since 1915 and look little bit darker
than average europeans.
but i exclude the ones who look exclusivly dravidian/turanian.
but their number is not more than 10% of all armenian speaking people.
which is very similar to Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, and to a certain extent between Russians and Ukrainians, and Serbs and Chroatians in Balkans, this idea of yours is very wrong and dangerous,
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these are bad examples.
tutsis and hutus are different nationalities from the same race.
so are serbs and croats and russian and ukranians.
if i support violence between armenians and georgians your examples
would be similar.
in my case i support differing pure armenians from the non pure ones.
and this is what actually may self-destroy Armenians as a nation.
about 80/90% of armenians of today are still pure armenians in my
eyes.
so if there are are 8 million armenians today in all the world.
then 7 million of them are pure and white.
if we unite all of them and make them to live like brothers under
tseghagron ideology.
then we wont need to that 8th million which are full of mongrels
and armenized non armenians.
You seem to advocate civil war in Armenia, and an end to the Armenian state.
i always said that we cant make any thing now in this hard situation
except teaching pure armenians to stick to each other and feel
aware from the non pure ones.
and there can never be a civili war for this matter.
cause pure armenians are 80/90% of the population.
there can be little holocaust to get rid of armenized non armenians.
which are minority.
Furthermore, you call a saint of Armenian literature, Paruyr Sevak as a non-Armenian, who actually has done more for the Armenian nation, Armenian culture and Armenia than all us here together combined.
i never seen a good picture of him.
thers no coloured picture of him so we cant comment about him.
but as you can see i have one of his quotes in my signature which
means that i respect him.
but of course i like very pure armenian looking literatures like
avedis aharonian more than him.cause i also feel blood relation
with him in addition of his bravity and his sacrifice for our nation.
this is something i can never feel with non pure armenian person no matter what he does for armenian cause.
. In regards to black Armenians, we are not refering to any black person who speaks Armenian, but only to those black people who are of Armenian origin and primarily reside in Ethiopia.
there is no such thing as original black "armenians"
there are just some armenized ethiopians who sticked their
nose in armenian society cause of judo christianity.
and now your using armenian paganism(armenism) as race mixing tool
like chrisianity.
and i saw a picture of some armenians who live in ethiopia
they were one of the purest armenians that iv seen.
except there were few pure african blacks which have nothing
to do with armenian people.
As such, I do not consider you as a nationalist or a patriot for that matter, I even suspect you of being a provacateur, who wants to put Armenians against each other based on non-existant issues that you seem to want to create and find support for. If you are not a provacateur, but a misguided person who uncounseously advocates violence among Armenians and the destruction of the Armenian state then I may give you a benefit of doubt and probably by the end of this discussion your true beliefs and motives will become more apparent.
We also consider as Armenian those who have at least one Armenian parent, just like Jews who consider anybody who had a Jewish mother as a Jew regardless of their race or religeous belief.
i think that its honour for me to be called provacater from some
one that is convencing by himself that hes jew behaving
and use the same rules of jews considering who is armenian and whos not
with the same way that jews consider who is jew and whos not jew.
i have no comment about this issue
Also, the type of people mentioned above must consider themselves as Armenian, before we accept them as Armenian. If somebody who is black or muslim of Armenian origin, or has one Armenian parent, but doesn't consider himself/herself as an Armenian, then we do not consider them as an Armenian.
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once again i will repeat what i said before.
beeing armenian or not is NOT like joining any maffia or group or political
party.
if you have armenian ancestry and look armenian and feel/act/behave
like armenian then your armenian.
all these terms are important in order to claim to be armenian.
beeing armenian is not like beeing communist or capitalist or liberalist.
its not some ones choice.